TDP 168: ViVE 2025 Debrief: AI Hype vs Reality, What Are Ambient Scribe Vendors Actually Building Next, and Was it Really Worth Going To?

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On this special solo episode of The Digital Patient, Josh and Alan recap their experience at ViVE 2025 in Nashville—from key takeaways on AI’s growing pains to health system reinvention and some hilarious behind-the-scenes moments. They share standout ideas from top speakers, discuss the shifting landscape of digital health, and rate everything from conference swag to Nashville hot chicken. Click the play button to listen or read the show notes below.
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Guest(s):

• Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

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‍Episode 168 - Show Notes:

[00:00:07] Welcome to ViVE 2025: Nashville Edition

[00:02:09] Music City Center: A Great Venue… If You Can Navigate It

[00:06:10] The Most Underrated Part of ViVE? Free Food & The Perfect Amount of Bananas

[00:10:01] AI Scribes vs. EHR Giants: Friend or Foe?

[00:14:08] Health Systems Can’t Plan More Than 6 Months Ahead Anymore

[00:16:45] AI Predictions Are Useless Without Actionable Steps

[00:22:15] Cybersecurity in Healthcare: A Crisis Waiting to Happen?

[00:32:07] What Are AI Scribe Vendors Actually Building Next?

[00:37:47] Humans in the Loop? Stanford’s Dr. Michael Pfeffer Says No.

[00:38:26] AI is Not Coming to Save Healthcare—Health Systems Must Reinvent Themselves

[00:40:49] Wearables Work. The Problem? Data.

[00:43:53] Nashville Hot Chicken: The Cold Truth

[00:44:30] Final ViVE 2025 Rating: 4 Stars!

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