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SeamlessMD Podcast - Episode 4 - Lessons From Building A Healthcare Technology Company

July 7, 2020
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In this episode of the SeamlessMD Podcast, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD, and marketing colleague, Alan Sardana, discuss the key lessons and learnings from building a healthcare technology company. See the full show notes below for details.

Guest(s): Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

Episode 4 – Show notes:

[1:15] Dr. Liu’s thoughts on “should I get an MBA before starting a company?”;

[3:40] Dr. Liu on the importance of mentors and why it’s important to weigh feedback differently based on who’s providing the feedback;

[5:15] What makes a great mentor vs. a bad mentor;

[6:50] Why it’s important to have and follow core values in a company + SeamlessMD’s core values (speed, simplicity, customer-centricity);

[8:05] Why concise communication (e.g. short emails) are important especially when communicating with healthcare providers;

[10:00] Why making things simple reduces friction for your prospect/customer;

[11:35] The main differences between building a business in healthcare vs. other industries;

[13:00] The importance of identifying early adopters and internal champions for the buying process;

[14:55] MYTH: You should let your champions solo pitch your product internally. REALITY: Your champions, with limited knowledge of the solution, are not equipped to effectively pitch the solution or address questions/objections on their own. It’s best to co-present the solution internally.

[17:35] MYTH: Just because you have strong clinical evidence, the decision-maker will buy your solution. REALITY: The metrics the decision-maker (e.g. hospital executive) cares about may not match the metrics the front line providers care about. You need to ensure you are also achieving the decision maker’s goals.

[20:00] MYTH: Free pilots reduce the friction to get a sale, therefore it is best to offer your product for free. REALITY: Free pilots mean much less skin in the game for customers and less accountability in making their best effort to be successful with the solution. When a customer spends money, they will invest in being successful with your solution because they don’t want to show the decision-maker that they made their best effort - otherwise, they may not get funding in the future.

[23:45] How Dr. Liu views the role of a CEO and why leaders (and everyone) should embrace sales - from clinicians to community leaders.

[26:30] Why SeamlessMD focuses on educating the market over sales;

[27:30] How SeamlessMD operates as if the customer is always in the room;

[28:10] The fine balance for digital patient engagement companies between being customer-centric and patient-centric;

[29:20] What it means to hire the best talent and how to foster the right culture for your company;

[29:45] The two main traits Dr. Liu looks for in employees;

[32:20] Why companies fail;

[33:35] How execution is more important than your idea;

[34:50] Why it’s vitally important to have diverse perspectives on your team;

[36:10] Why seeking the truth is one of the most important value for a company;

[38:20] How defining ‘what a readmission is’ kept Dr. Liu up at night;

[39:40] How new challenges always arise and the answer to ‘what is keeping you up at night’ changes overtime;

[41:30] Why it’s more important to share your idea with others than to keep it a secret;

[44:15] Dr. Liu’s advise to find the low-hanging fruit;

[47:00] How payer incentives influence innovation;

[51:00] Dr. Liu’s “napkin” advice to anyone wanting to start a healthcare tech company; and

[51:51] Why it’s more important to focus on solving a problem as opposed to creating a business;


SeamlessMD Podcast - Episode 4 - Lessons From Building A Healthcare Technology Company

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July 7, 2020

Subscribe on: RSS | SPOTIFY | APPLE PODCAST | GOOGLE | BREAKER | ANCHOR

Video:

In this episode of the SeamlessMD Podcast, Dr. Joshua Liu, Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD, and marketing colleague, Alan Sardana, discuss the key lessons and learnings from building a healthcare technology company. See the full show notes below for details.

Guest(s): Dr. Joshua Liu (@joshuapliu), Co-founder & CEO at SeamlessMD

Episode 4 – Show notes:

[1:15] Dr. Liu’s thoughts on “should I get an MBA before starting a company?”;

[3:40] Dr. Liu on the importance of mentors and why it’s important to weigh feedback differently based on who’s providing the feedback;

[5:15] What makes a great mentor vs. a bad mentor;

[6:50] Why it’s important to have and follow core values in a company + SeamlessMD’s core values (speed, simplicity, customer-centricity);

[8:05] Why concise communication (e.g. short emails) are important especially when communicating with healthcare providers;

[10:00] Why making things simple reduces friction for your prospect/customer;

[11:35] The main differences between building a business in healthcare vs. other industries;

[13:00] The importance of identifying early adopters and internal champions for the buying process;

[14:55] MYTH: You should let your champions solo pitch your product internally. REALITY: Your champions, with limited knowledge of the solution, are not equipped to effectively pitch the solution or address questions/objections on their own. It’s best to co-present the solution internally.

[17:35] MYTH: Just because you have strong clinical evidence, the decision-maker will buy your solution. REALITY: The metrics the decision-maker (e.g. hospital executive) cares about may not match the metrics the front line providers care about. You need to ensure you are also achieving the decision maker’s goals.

[20:00] MYTH: Free pilots reduce the friction to get a sale, therefore it is best to offer your product for free. REALITY: Free pilots mean much less skin in the game for customers and less accountability in making their best effort to be successful with the solution. When a customer spends money, they will invest in being successful with your solution because they don’t want to show the decision-maker that they made their best effort - otherwise, they may not get funding in the future.

[23:45] How Dr. Liu views the role of a CEO and why leaders (and everyone) should embrace sales - from clinicians to community leaders.

[26:30] Why SeamlessMD focuses on educating the market over sales;

[27:30] How SeamlessMD operates as if the customer is always in the room;

[28:10] The fine balance for digital patient engagement companies between being customer-centric and patient-centric;

[29:20] What it means to hire the best talent and how to foster the right culture for your company;

[29:45] The two main traits Dr. Liu looks for in employees;

[32:20] Why companies fail;

[33:35] How execution is more important than your idea;

[34:50] Why it’s vitally important to have diverse perspectives on your team;

[36:10] Why seeking the truth is one of the most important value for a company;

[38:20] How defining ‘what a readmission is’ kept Dr. Liu up at night;

[39:40] How new challenges always arise and the answer to ‘what is keeping you up at night’ changes overtime;

[41:30] Why it’s more important to share your idea with others than to keep it a secret;

[44:15] Dr. Liu’s advise to find the low-hanging fruit;

[47:00] How payer incentives influence innovation;

[51:00] Dr. Liu’s “napkin” advice to anyone wanting to start a healthcare tech company; and

[51:51] Why it’s more important to focus on solving a problem as opposed to creating a business;


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